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[08:41]<@BC_Programming> two hours of FRAPS footage
[08:41]<@BC_Programming> 71GB
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: Dinnerbone just added cloneable maps for 1.4 :/
[11:12]<@BC_Programming> on an unrelated note I absolutely hate how FRAPS splits files into 4GB segments
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[11:39]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming, that's because of fat32
[11:39]<Tux2> Also, awesome!
[11:40]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: No, it's because of an old AVI format limitation
[11:40]<@BC_Programming> newer version of fraps encoder actually doesn't split it anymore
[11:41]<Tux2> ah, lol
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> It's a PAIN otherwise because while I'm trying to join them I lose track of which file I was working with :/ then have to start over
[11:41]<Tux2> lol
[11:41]<@BC_Programming> last half-hour or so I just wrote a quick program in C# specifically to rename the files so virtualdub detects it and appends them in order
[11:42]<Tux2> Nice!
[11:42]<@BC_Programming> two hours of a Vech's Super Hostile Map, could almost be a speedrun, I got two wools
[11:42]<Tux2> BC_Programming: how do I patent a way of doing things?
[11:43]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: I dunno
[11:43]<Tux2> Because I've got a new technology that I want to patent.
[11:44]<@BC_Programming> I could give you google results but I figure you probably did that already :/
[11:45]<Tux2> lol, not yet. Just wondered if you knew.
[11:45]<@BC_Programming> anyway Vechs maps are EVIL
[11:46]<@BC_Programming> Creeper spawners all over the place... buggers were literally spawning two steps ahead of me in some places... not to mention the spawner near the start that spawns charged creepers with fire resist :/.. I stayed away from that after my first encounter
[11:47]<Serpent> why has it reminded me about Star Craft? ...
[11:47]<Serpent> :)
[11:48]<@BC_Programming> I don't know
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[11:55]<Tux2> lol
[11:57]<@BC_Programming> estimated time 5 hours... well I have some spare time while the video processes
[11:58]<@BC_Programming> (for the first time... then I have to open it and put the audio with it and cut it into episodes and other boring stuff)
[11:59]<Tux2> lol
[11:59]<Tux2> Wow, filing a formal patent can be expensive...
[12:00]<@BC_Programming> yeah I would imagine
[12:11]<Tux2> Yeah, I just called a friend of mine that has patented several things... hopefully he calls me back.
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[12:13]<Tux2> The reason why I want to file a patent: it's a revolutionary new way of doing things for an old problem. I don't want Apple or Microsoft patenting it, thus making it unavailable for anyone else that wants to use it.
[12:16]<Tux2> Also, if Microsoft or Apple wanted to implement it they would have to pay royalties to me. ;)
[12:16]<@BC_Programming> Optionally they could it anyway. The onus would be on you to launch litigation
[12:16]<Tux2> Exactly, which I would do.
[12:18]<Tux2> The patent would be specific enough to cover a specific way of doing things, and the licensing cost wouldn't be too high anyways.
[12:20]<Tux2> and after a few years I'd basically make it public use for all free products anyways so that everyone can use it.
[12:21]<camerongray_> Tux2, What awas that file thing?
[12:21]<camerongray_> I think I saw a screenshot on Facebook
[12:21]<camerongray_> If that was the same thing
[12:23]<Tux2> lol, it has an implementation of the algorithm I want to patent
[12:23]<camerongray_> Cool, what does the algoritm do?
[12:24]<Tux2> When a file needs action it allows the rest of the files to be copied without stopping while asking what to do with that file.
[12:24]<camerongray_> Nice!
[12:24]<Tux2> Yup!
[12:25]<Tux2> It's the way I've implemented it though that I want patented.
[12:25]<camerongray_> Ahh
[12:25]<camerongray_> How do you go about patenting something?
[12:25]<camerongray_> Isn't it very expensive?
[12:26]<Tux2> Well, seems I can file an "informal patent" which isn't very expensive at all (just submitting my source code for this program would be enough)
[12:26]<Tux2> but I don't know any of those specifics
[12:26]<Tux2> Then, within a year I would need to file a formal patent.
[12:26]<camerongray_> Ahh
[12:28]<Tux2> If it's going to be as big as I think it is in the tech community I'm sure I can afford a formal patent within a year.
[12:29]<camerongray_> Nice!
[12:29]<@BC_Programming> There are programs that implement this already
[12:29]<Tux2> How many times have you been copying a huge chunk of files, only to come back hours later to see that it's paused because of one little file
[12:30]<Tux2> link me BC_Programming.
[12:30]<@BC_Programming> FastCopy is the program I found
[12:31]<@BC_Programming> it might not do exactly what yours does though. Not sure... It might just go with some default answer
[12:32]<Tux2> It just skips those files, logging them in the console
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> Now I've got something to do with my In Progress C# program that searches asynchronously
[12:32]<Tux2> Awesome!
[12:32]<Tux2> That sounds useful as well
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> If I just make it copy in the callback it will probably have the same effect :D
[12:32]<@BC_Programming> I was actually experimenting with the new async stuff in the new version of C#
[12:33]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming...
[12:33]<@BC_Programming> idea was to duplicate BCSearch but try to ideally not make it explode in the users face a lot
[12:33]<Tux2> And this is why I'm not giving away implementation details
[12:33]<Tux2> ;)
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> Actually now I'm totally curious to see if just adding a simple copy mechanism to my Search callback would give a similar effect
[12:34]<Tux2> lol, but what about when it asks what to do with a file, what happens to the rest of the files?
[12:34]<@BC_Programming> OOOh I had an idea for the UI as well heheh
[12:34]<Tux2> also, how many files are going to be copied at once?
[12:35]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: the search is asynchronous, so while the callback is running searches are still going and continue to reenter the callback
[12:35]<Tux2> Hmm... interesting...
[12:35]<Tux2> I would love to see an implementation
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> I haven't really messed with it much... heck as it is now it's just a console program, lol
[12:36]<Tux2> lol
[12:36]<@BC_Programming> but I made it a class so I can just plop that in a GUI I suppose
[12:36]<Tux2> just fyi: the archiver program I made is just an implementation of my copy mechanism, as it only copies a subset of files
[12:37]<Tux2> and it has been proven to work, being used on a customer's machine overnight.
[12:37]<@BC_Programming> I was actually confused about that, does it archive as in copy or archive as in put in a compressed file
[12:37]<Tux2> Right now only copy
[12:38]<Tux2> basically it was used to copy off all old files on a shared network drive to an external for archival purposes since the hard drive was getting quite full.
[12:39]<Tux2> I came up with the algorithm while making the program, but saw a use for it outside of the specific implementation
[12:40]<Tux2> It's designed to be as fast as possible, yet reliable and not rely on user input every second
[12:40]<Tux2> as all copy operations now rely on in windows and linux
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> wtf there is no x64 VS2012 :[
[12:41]<@BC_Programming> I MUST RAISE MY PITCHFORK
[12:41]<Tux2> if a folder/file needs an action taken it pauses the entire copy process
[12:41]<Tux2> ROFL!
[12:42]<@BC_Programming> my search-a-majig spins a new async call for searching each directory
[12:45]<Tux2> nice
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> that includes subdirs... so like \folder and \folder1 will spin off new calls for those, but then those calls will spin off new workers for each subfolder too
[12:46]<Tux2> Wouldn't that explode the ram usage of the program?
[12:46]<@BC_Programming> it probably would if I was using Threads, at least without special management
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> async language feature seems to deal with that, not sure how tbh
[12:47]<@BC_Programming> doesn't seem to go beyond 8 threads
[12:51]<@BC_Programming> I still don't fully understand the new async/await keywords :/ but somehow what I made worked...
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> I was going to write a blog post about them
[12:53]<@BC_Programming> but them realized I probably shouldn't do so since I haven't a clue exactly what they do! lol
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[13:01]<@BC_Programming> Ooooh I remember what else I was thinking of for async stuff
[13:01]<@BC_Programming> my updater spins a new thread for each download as well
[13:05]<+camerongray> Well I just unplugged my PC while extracting eclips
[13:05]<+camerongray> eclipse*
[13:05]<+camerongray> Must. Label. Sockets
[13:05]<Tux2> lol
[13:05]<@BC_Programming> lol camerongray
[13:06]<+camerongray> I flipped the switch and heard a click but the printer was still on - then I heard the pop sound from my speakers and realised
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> "woopsie daisy"
[13:06]<+camerongray> lol - or words to that effect :P
[13:06]<@BC_Programming> Hmm now I'm torn... attempt to rip off Tux2's idea or just continue with the idea to make BCSearch.NET
[13:07]<+camerongray> lol
[13:07]<@BC_Programming> think I will do the latter
[13:07]<@BC_Programming> could implement a Copy "ActionFilter" assuming I actually get that far... never did enable those in BCSearch even though they worked :/
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> It's a race now
[13:12]<@BC_Programming> between VirtualDub and VS2012 setup
[13:12]<Tux2> lol BC_Programming, your way of doing it would not be covered by the patent anyways, we do it two entirely different ways.
[13:14]<@BC_Programming> Oh, interesting. I did have an idea for the UI prompt thing, it would be cool if instead of separate windows popping up, it could use one UI window and new "prompts" would appear there if one was already there in a list or something
[13:14]<Tux2> lol, yeah, I'm going to implement that in my program
[13:15]<@BC_Programming> eg if a file already exists, the dialog will show, and if it isn't dismissed before input is required for some other file it will add that to the dialog
[13:16]<Tux2> lol, there's one difference between yours and mine though: mine's already written, just needs the improvements... yours still needs to be made.
[13:16]<@BC_Programming> my search thing exists, that would be the core
[13:16]<Tux2> Exactly
[13:17]<@BC_Programming> Just figured out why I stopped on it though, I didn't want to go through the pain of re-writing the code to show that right-click file context menu
[13:17]<Tux2> You go off in the search and copy direction
[13:18]<Tux2> as far as it is basically a searching program, I'll go off in the mass file copying direction. ;)
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> I almost want to go the copy rather than search and show results route just so I can avoid having to implement that :/
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> (the right-click context menu thing, that is)
[13:18]<Tux2> lol, why not have an option to "copy results to X directory"
[13:18]<@BC_Programming> how do you mean?
[13:19]<Tux2> You have your search dialog box, in the box there's a check box to copy the results of the search to a certain directory
[13:19]<@BC_Programming> the VB6 version you could Control-A, Control-C. and then paste it into an explorer window if desired
[13:20]<@BC_Programming> of course that would use the default copy/paste logic
[13:20]<Tux2> of course
[13:20]<Tux2> or just have an button: copy selected results to a folder
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> yeah... think I would go checkbox route or some additional field
[13:21]<@BC_Programming> I still have to finish the actual Search class... I finished the "Directory Inspector" but I want to wrap it in a more search-oriented class with stuff like a list of filters and whatnot
[13:22]<@BC_Programming> I can always add my nemesis the Explorer context menu later
[13:27]<@BC_Programming> I really just want a more stable BCSearch, I use the program myself and managed to fix a few problems at least one person had with it... (that is, me) and it works a lot better but it feels kind of like a rube goldberg thing that could explode at any moment while I'm using it
[13:27]<Tux2> rofl!
[13:27]<Tux2> Probably is. ;)
[13:28]<Tux2> I would love to see a java version of it. :D
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[13:28]<Tux2> If you use .net I might be able to use it with mono though...
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> well it will be C# 5, Mono doesn't have an implementation for that yet since it's like 2 weeks old
[13:29]<@BC_Programming> I think it still runs in the older runtime
[13:30]<@BC_Programming> I'd rewrite it to use Threads but that no fun :P
[13:37]<Tux2> lol
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> it's cool because in some ways it's mostly just standard synchronous, blocking code
[13:38]<Tux2> Ah, nice
[13:38]<@BC_Programming> magically made asynchronous with a few keywords
[13:39]<Tux2> lol
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> the synchronous routine is "InspectionRoutine"... but it get's called in a "Start" method that looks like this:
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> public async Task Start() {
[13:39]<Tux2> ;)
[13:39]<@BC_Programming> await Task.Run((Action)InspectionRoutine); }
[13:40]<@BC_Programming> like I say still not 100% how it works, took me a while to get a handle on yield and co-routines though, too
[13:40]<Tux2> lol
[13:40]<Tux2> Multiple threads and accessing shared objects is always a matter of study.
[13:41]<Tux2> On that note, would you mind looking at some code for me?
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> lol
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> sure
[13:41]<@BC_Programming> pastebin?
[13:42]<Tux2> People keep reporting a "race" condition in WeatherRestrictions, I can't find it...
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> ahhh
[13:42]<@BC_Programming> have they given you proper stacktraces?
[13:42]<Tux2> https://github.com/Tux2/RandomWeather
[13:43]<Tux2> I've gotten a NoLagg report showing that somehow my plugin has scheduled 100 weather tasks in a single tick, but I don't know how that would happen...
[13:43]<Tux2> But of course no proper stacktraces
[13:44]<Tux2> Server owners are idiots in that regard.
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> :/ except yourself of course presumably
[13:44]<@BC_Programming> :P
[13:44]<Tux2> lol, of course
[13:44]<Tux2> thread starts here: https://github.com/Tux2/RandomWeather/blob/master/src/tux2/weatherrestrictions/WeatherRestrictions.java#L229
[13:45]<Tux2> here's the other class that accesses the one shared object: https://github.com/Tux2/RandomWeather/blob/master/src/tux2/weatherrestrictions/WeatherRestrictionsWeatherListener.java
[13:45]<Tux2> The one concurrently accessed object: https://github.com/Tux2/RandomWeather/blob/master/src/tux2/weatherrestrictions/WeatherRestrictions.java#L33
[13:46]<Tux2> Everything that could be accessed in a different thread has been made thread safe, as far as I know...
[13:47]<@BC_Programming> do items get removed in only one place?
[13:48]<@BC_Programming> from the timeweather queue, that is
[13:49]<Tux2> line 257, WeatherRestrictions.java, WeatherRestrictionsWeatherListener.java line 86
[13:50]<Tux2> So no, but just at those two places.
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> actually not sure if what I was thinking would matter, the way you have it... I was thinking that it was possible that between the time you determine there is an element and the time you act on it, another thread might have removed the item
[13:51]<@BC_Programming> Though, I guess it depends how remove() acts when the item specified isn't there any longer...
[13:52]<Tux2> It just doesn't do anything
[13:52]<@BC_Programming> hmmm
[13:53]<Tux2> that call acts on a queue so that only one thread can act on it at a time.
[13:53]<Tux2> Only thing I can think of is that bukkit is spamming the WeatherChangeEvent
[13:54]<@BC_Programming> I'm guessing line 258 in WeatherRestrictions.java is the one that seems to be executed too many times?
[13:54]<@BC_Programming> eg. adding a lot of scheduled events
[13:54]<Tux2> yes
[13:54]<Tux2> according to the NoLagg reports
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> hmm
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> well from what I remember this wasn't an issue before
[13:56]<@BC_Programming> so could be as you believe some change with bukkit
[13:58]<Tux2> it started happening in 1.2.5, and i guess it's also an issue in 1.3.1
[13:58]<Tux2> Oh, guess what? I've had the ownership of the MultiInv project transferred over to me :D http://dev.bukkit.org/server-mods/multiinv/
[13:59]<@BC_Programming> lol cool
[13:59]<Tux2> lol, yeah, pluckerpluck disappeared off the face of the planet, so I had to report the project to get it transferred
[14:00]<Tux2> I wouldn't have minded if he was still an active part of the project, but I've been doing all the work for over 4 months...
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> ugh
[14:01]<Tux2> Yeah, one of the things I wanted to change was where the donation money went if someone happened to donate
[14:01]<@BC_Programming> ahhh yeah that would make sense
[14:02]<@BC_Programming> no reason for them to make money off your work
[14:02]<Tux2> Exactly!
[14:07]<@BC_Programming> hmm FileSearch class will use separate filters for files, as well as another set for deciding which subfolders to look in
[14:08]<@BC_Programming> just in case you only want to count all *.dat files that sit in folders that start with A or something
[14:19]<Tux2> lol, wow
[14:20]<Tux2> I just entered a 'where's george" $5 bill...
[14:20]<Tux2> seems I'm the second entry...
[14:20]<Tux2> and it's gone 200 miles since first being entered.
[14:20]<Tux2> http://www.wheresgeorge.com/report.php?key=8155f0158630319c360c6cc7b76b8b1e3480d2b609ff23b4
[14:41]<@BC_Programming> heh... now I have to right that async blog post, I thought of a perfect intro. "When The Police released their Synchronicity album, C# 5.0 is not what they had in mind"
[15:09]<@BC_Programming> still two hours of processing for this video :/
[15:28]<Tux2> lol
[15:29]<Tux2> Time to pay rent... searches end table of tip money to see if I have enough... $50 short...
[15:29]<Tux2> *Checks apron to see if money is in there... comes up with $20 more dollars*
[15:29]<Tux2> *checks messy floor, comes up with $30 more dollars...*
[15:29] * Tux2 thinks he needs to organize his room.
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> uh yeah
[15:30]<@BC_Programming> 50$ short just with tip money seems pretty good
[15:32]<Tux2> lol, actually, I pay my rent every month with the tip money i collected the previous month
[15:32]<Tux2> and that doesn't count all the small purchases I make every day out of my tip money
[15:32]<@BC_Programming> you don't only make tips though, right?
[15:33]<Tux2> Of course!
[15:33]<@BC_Programming> good :P
[15:33]<Tux2> The tip money goes towards rent, the other money goes towards gas in my car and other online purchases I can't purchase with cash.
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> ahh
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> yeah can't imagine coming in with a bunch of change and 1's and making a deposit, lol
[15:34]<Tux2> rofl!
[15:34]<Tux2> I've done that before!
[15:34]<@BC_Programming> well I mean not regularly
[15:35]<Tux2> lol, yeah
[15:35]<Tux2> I'm trying to whittle down my ones right now
[15:35]<Tux2> so far it's been working
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> my bank account will probably be closed soon :/ been overdrawn for over a month now
[15:35]<Tux2> I keep a wad of ones in my wallet, so when I have to give out change I give out ones
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> not sure what the limit is though
[15:35]<Tux2> overdrawn by how much?
[15:35]<@BC_Programming> 4 dollars
[15:36]<Tux2> do you have any other kinds of bank fees?
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> I think it's 2.99 a month
[15:36]<@BC_Programming> of course I <could> fix that by moving money from paypal
[15:37]<@BC_Programming> but that would be a bad idea since then I wouldn't be able to renew my domain in Oct.
[15:37]<Tux2> lol, what's your paypal email?
[15:37]<@BC_Programming> BC_Programming@hotmail.com
[15:37]<@BC_Programming> but I should probably double check that
[15:37]<Tux2> lol, yes please
[15:38]<Tux2> a $50 USD donation should cover you for a couple of months
[15:38]<@BC_Programming> oh cool
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> yep that's the one
[15:39]<Tux2> Equates to about 49.4501 CAD
[15:39]<Tux2> according to google that is
[15:39]<@BC_Programming> for some reason I tried to log in as BC_Programming.com first
[15:41]<Tux2> You should be getting an email from paypal soon
[15:41]<@BC_Programming> cool, thank you :)
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> I keep seeing like 10-30GB bandwidth usage per month
[15:43]<@BC_Programming> but most of it is still those wallpapers I posted so long ago
[15:43]<Tux2> lol
[15:43]<Tux2> remember, you'll never lose your domain, your friends won't let that happen...
[15:44]<Tux2> At least I won't let it happen...
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> wow thx... not all of us are youtube superstars like Mulreay
[15:44]<@BC_Programming> lol
[15:44]<Tux2> Rofl!
[15:44]<Tux2> A .com is only abour $12 USD per year anyways, no reason you should lose it.
[15:44]<Tux2> about*
[15:45]<Tux2> And I'm sure between all the VPS and hosting plans we all have we can foot you some domain space until you can afford your own again too
[15:46]<@BC_Programming> cool... just checked also: those wallpaper pics literally are half my bandwidth usage... not sure whether to be flattered or annoyed
[15:47]<Tux2> lol
[15:47]<Tux2> anyways, that's nothing compared to the 200GB of bandwidth I can handle on my linode
[15:47]<@BC_Programming> I think my host allows 255GB a month or therabouts
[15:48]<Tux2> lol, here's how much I've used this month of my quota: 6GB Used, 194GB Remaining, 200GB Quota
[15:48]<Tux2> I think I could spare 30GB
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> Looked at last October, when you submitted those wallpapers to Equestria Daily
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> Oct 1st bandwidth usage was 30 GB
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> just for one day
[15:49]<@BC_Programming> good times
[15:49]<Tux2> :D
[15:49]<Tux2> I remember when you got on IRC
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> I still have the very first convo's in this mIRC log, lol
[15:50]<Tux2> You're like OMG!!!! MY BANDWIDTH IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES, I DON'T THINK I CAN HANDLE IT!!!!!
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[15:50]<@BC_Programming> oh wait that might have been xchat don't have those ones here
[15:50]<Tux2> lol
[15:50]<@BC_Programming> but they are on the secret IRC log page
[15:51]<Tux2> but yeah, I kind of enjoyed your little rise to popularity and your reaction to it. ;)
[15:51]<@BC_Programming> I was like meh they are good for me I guess
[15:52]<Tux2> BC_Programming: how many wallpapers do you have of luna?
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> I only really wanted to do a few... at the time I thought even just doing the mane 6 was a ridiculous proposition
[15:52]<@BC_Programming> just luna or with luna in them?
[15:52]<Tux2> Well, someone asked for a Luna Go launcher theme...
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[15:53]<Tux2> so predominately luna
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> well for just Luna I have 4
[15:53]<@BC_Programming> but two are kind of recolors
[15:53]<Tux2> Ah, nice
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> there is one for Nightmare Moon and Luna in one paper
[15:54]<Tux2> Would you mind creating some android exclusive versions?
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> maybe
[15:54]<@BC_Programming> what dimensions does it need?
[15:54]<Tux2> 960x800
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> hmm with Luna
[15:55]<Tux2> Of course only part of the picture is shown at any given time though
[15:55]<@BC_Programming> okey dokey
[15:56]<@BC_Programming> *okey dokey lokey
[15:56]<Tux2> My thought is, having a free luna theme, but also a paid one with your Android themed wallpapers
[15:56]<@BC_Programming> oooh that would be cool
[15:56]<Tux2> with 50% of the profit of the app going to yu.
[15:56]<Tux2> you*
[15:56]<@BC_Programming> neat... and I could just keep churning out the same character wallpapers without feeling bad, lol
[15:57]<Tux2> lol, yup!
[15:57]<Tux2> To give you some idea of the popularity of them... I've had over 2K downloads of my Rainbow Dash theme in just about a month
[15:57] * @BC_Programming dusts off his D:\MLP folder
[15:57]<Tux2> Although it is free
[15:58]<@BC_Programming> that could have other versions too though to be fair
[15:58]<Tux2> I'm sure people would be more than happy to pay $0.99 for a couple really cool wallpapers
[15:59]<@BC_Programming> this is going to be a weird resolution for me to work with, so used to having a lot of space, lol
[15:59]<Tux2> lol, I know, right?
[15:59]<@BC_Programming> first cuteness overload with Luna Filly
[15:59]<Tux2> :D
[15:59]<@BC_Programming> the starry mane'd version of course
[16:00]<@BC_Programming> actually I might make some tweak of the vectors specifically for it since some of it was bugging me before...
[16:01]<Tux2> ah...
[16:01]<Tux2> here's a good example of an android wallpaper: http://tecknojock.deviantart.com/art/RD-Android-BG-960x800-217705225
[16:02]<@BC_Programming> I shall endeavour to BLOW IT OUT OF THE WATER with awesomeness
[16:07]<Tux2> Just remember that the top and bottom 80 pixels of that image may not display on some phones
[16:07]<@BC_Programming> OK, won't put anything important there then
[16:09]<Tux2> Exactly. I have like a little bit above the clouds and it cuts off right at the bottom of the lightning bolt on my scree]
[16:09]<Tux2> screen*
[16:11]<@BC_Programming> oh wow I just found a wallpaper I finished but never uploaded
[16:12]<Tux2> lol!
[16:16]<@BC_Programming> A MASTERPIECE
[16:20]<@BC_Programming> that one used stuff from the other wallpapers... now to create one entirely from nothing
[16:25]<Tux2> :D I await your results. :)
[16:25]<@BC_Programming> going to have two in a little bit here
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> I'm... uhh... "speed-shopping" I guess
[16:26]<Tux2> Since these will be your wallpapers, and I will definitely attribute them to you, you are still free to upload them to deviant art
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> in the photoshop sense, not the buyinh spree
[16:26]<Tux2> lol
[16:26]<@BC_Programming> btw I'm not putting my URL on these ones
[16:27]<Tux2> Understood
[16:27]<Tux2> The links to your website, etc. will be on the product page though.
[16:29]<Tux2> OMG! Mind doing this one in 960x800 for a princess cadence theme? http://bc-programming.deviantart.com/art/Princess-Cadence-Wallpaper-2-320836053
[16:29]<Tux2> (Watermark it, it will be a free app)
[16:29]<@BC_Programming> ok
[16:30]<@BC_Programming> I could make adaptations of other existing wallpapers too
[16:30]<Tux2> lol, yup, I just saw that one and was blown away. ;)
[16:31]<@BC_Programming> I particularly like the way the text glow looks totally fits her IMO
[16:32]<Tux2> Exactly!
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/Android/LunaFilly.png
[16:37]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/Android/luna.png
[16:40]<Tux2> They look great! Just some critiques now...
[16:40]<@BC_Programming> k
[16:41]<Tux2> The princess Luna Filly text will only be shown halfway on the middle home screen, the Pri and Lu cut off on an android phone when on the middle screen
[16:42]<@BC_Programming> ahh OK, I wasn't sure how it would work with the GUI and stuff
[16:43]<Tux2> Also, some users opt to turn off the background shifting to save resources, so you've only got a small place to put the very important stuff
[16:43]<@BC_Programming> background shifting?
[16:44]<Tux2> when you switch between the different home screens the background shifts slightly depending on which screen you're shifting to
[16:44]<@BC_Programming> ahhh
[16:44]<@BC_Programming> see I have no idea :P
[16:44]<Tux2> Only about 1/2 of the image is displayed at any one time.
[16:45]<Tux2> lol, that's why I'm telling you.
[16:45]<Tux2> But the way you have luna positioned in the filly one is perfect! It's like she's peeking out at you on the middle screen as it cuts it off right at her ear
[16:46]<Tux2> But I've got to go for a bit. I'll get on via phone when I'm at the house I'm babysitting at tonight
[16:47]<@BC_Programming> k
[16:48]<Tux2> The other one with princess luna I would say is just about perfect, just shift luna a bit down and to the left
[16:48]<@BC_Programming> OK
[16:48]<Tux2> I know, android backgrounds can make you crazy!
[16:48]<@BC_Programming> just uploading the tweaked Cadence one
[16:49]<@BC_Programming> http://bc-programming.com/images/Android/Cadence_redux.png
[16:49]<@BC_Programming> I suspect the text is too wide in it, and get's chopped off a bit
[16:50]<Tux2> Actually, if anything, just maybe some of the shading, all the text would be visible
[16:50]<Tux2> of course I'm looking at the RD background I have applied on my phone and eyeballing the rest...
[16:51]<@BC_Programming> uploading the tweaks to the other two as well
[16:51]<Tux2> gotcha
[16:52]<@BC_Programming> done
[16:52]<Tux2> here's how the rainbow dash background looks like on screen 2 of my phone: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gau.go.launcherex.theme.com.tuxtwo.rdtheme&feature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwyLDEsImNvbS5nYXUuZ28ubGF1bmNoZXJleC50aGVtZS5jb20udHV4dHdvLnJkdGhlbWUiXQ..
[16:52]<@BC_Programming> OOOOH I just looked online, it only shows the middle part of the image most of the time
[16:53]<Tux2> Exactly!
[16:53]<Tux2> Those look good though. :D
[16:54]<Tux2> While I'm making the theme I'll send you snapshots of how your backgrounds look on my phone so you can make tweaks and such
[16:54]<@BC_Programming> downloading a template so that I can fake-preview what they look like too
[16:54]<Tux2> :D
[16:54]<Tux2> Awesome! I can't wait to see the results.
[16:55]<@BC_Programming> will probably do a couple more as well
[16:55]<@BC_Programming> Nightmare Moon at least :P
[16:56]<@BC_Programming> here's something even I forgot, only noticing when I resized the Cadence wallpaper: Queen Chrysalis is in it, faded out at the right
[17:00]<@BC_Programming> I hope this template is accurate...
[17:02]<@BC_Programming> new versions tweaked with the template are up now
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